Lately I have been eating a zero-carb carnivore diet.
After 35 days on this diet I ate a cheat meal of ice cream and pizza.
This was a big mistake.
Eating so much sugar caused a cascade of cravings that were difficult to ignore and I ended up eating ice cream several times over the next few weeks.
After developing the willpower to say “no more” I experienced something I never experienced before: The Keto Flu.
Each time I previously went on a keto or zero-carb diet I was never a big eater of sweets beforehand. Because I never ate many sweets, I never went through the keto flu (which can simply be called carbohydrate withdrawal).
Pure sugar produces a very extreme and obvious withdrawal.
When I originally started the zero-carb diet my only source of carbohydrates were natural (it was raw goat's milk).
Transitioning to a zero-carb diet meant only removing the raw goat milk and it was easy. I experienced no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever.
That all changed when I added cheat meals in the form of ice cream, once every few days or so.
To get back on track on the zero-carb diet I had to go through a very real carbohydrate withdrawal, which was not pleasant. It mostly consisted of strong cravings for carbs and being tired and foggy-headed.
With the understanding that sugar (via ice cream) creates a terrible withdrawal and with the understanding that vegetables and fruits have always robbed me of energy and caused me severe bodily pain and discomfort, I can only come to one conclusion…
Carbohydrates are not food.
If carbs aren't food, what are they?
Drugs.
When I eat carbs I get all of the symptoms of a drug addiction.
I need the carbs to feel better and when I don't eat them I go through withdrawal.
When I eat nothing but meat my mood is bright.
When I eat carbs, any carbs in any amount, my mood becomes dark and it doesn't brighten until I eat carbs again.
Then the mood brightens but fades again soon, causing me to constantly crave carbohydrates to sweeten my sour mood.
When I don't eat carbohydrates at all, as on the zero-carb carnivore diet, my mood is always steady and stellar. I always feel happy, calm, and content when I eat zero-carbs.
However, that all changes the moment I eat any carbs.
When I do have carbs I feel fine for the first hour or two, but soon - very soon - the cravings kick in.
What happens is that I crave carbs the same way a heroin addicts craves heroin.
Every time I break the carnivore diet and eat a cheat meal, a meal with carbohydrates, I have to go through the withdrawals which can be very tough.
Eating one carb meal is enough to trigger carb cravings that can last days and can be very hard to say no to.
It's insidious. You feel terrible during the carb cravings, so you eat carbs and feel better, for a few hours, and then the cravings come back stronger than ever.
Carbs aren't foods
Why do I say carbs aren't foods? Because they aren't fulfilling. When you eat carbs you want to keep eating and keep eating. You never become satisfied. When I eat steak I eat until I'm full and then I stop, satisfied. Not so with any carb meal, I can eat and eat and eat and never be satisfied. Finally I have to stop eating when there is no more room in my stomach. I don't stop eating carbs because I'm satisfied, I stop because I can't physically eat anymore. Carb eaters have to eat food every 3 hours or so because they are always hungry and never satiated. I can eat meat once per day and be fine.
All carbs are sugar
There are no such thing as good carbs and bad carbs. We all know sugar is bad, but the reality is that all carbohydrates are sugar. Yes, vegetables are sugar. Grains are sugar. Fruits are sugar. Sugar is not nutrition, it is degeneration. We all know that sugar rots teeth. Think about what the sugar does to your bones. When I ate nothing but “good carbs” via vegetables and fruits my body felt like it was rotting and my bones felt as though they were disintegrating. My body feels better on pure sugar than it does on “good carbs”, though the withdrawal from pure sugar is far worse.
Carbs make you fat
Fat gain has nothing to do with the amount of calories you eat. All people who eat nothing but meat, even 5 lbs of meat per day, are always lean, muscular, and strong. All obese people are carbohydrate addicts who are severely ALLERGIC to carbs. But what about Asians who stay lean on carbs? The Asians are malnourished and have very little energy. Essentially the skinny ones are wasting away because they don't eat enough meat/fat to keep any weight on.
Carbs can keep you both skinny and/or fat. If you eat nothing but carbs you will be malnourished and skinny like the Asians. If you eat carbs with meats and fats you can easily get fat or obese like the Americans (especially if you eat man-made carbs like pure sugar, potato chips, chocolate bars etc.). Even if you don't become obese you will develop a swollen belly from eating carbs. Just look at most of your fathers for proof of the swollen carbohydrate belly. When you have enough calories/carbohydrates you will become fat from eating carbs. Period. Modern Asians are getting fatter by the day. If you eat nothing but meat and no carbs your body will achieve perfect harmony - not too fat and not too skinny.
Carbs make you bloated
When you eat carbs you get bloated. People look for a million ways to get rid of the bloat, not understanding that it is the “foods” we are eating that are causing. It isn't normal to be bloated. When you eat only meat you don't get bloated ever. You always feel lean and light. When you eat carbs you feel bloated and heavy. Carbs make your body feel disgusting, so why do we eat them? Because they are addictive. Carbs are also inflammatory, so many fat people and many people with big bellies aren't actually fat, they are inflamed.
“Aren't carbs addictive because they're good for you?”
No, quite the opposite. All of the things we get addicted to are very bad for us. Alcohol, drugs, cigarettes etc. None of the addictive substances in the world are good for us. And actually, we get addicted to what we're most allergic to. The biggest alcoholics have the biggest alcohol allergy. The fattest people have the biggest carbohydrate allergy. Yes, fat people are allergic to carbs and that is why they are so swollen. Fat people can stop being fat within a year if they give up carbs and eat only meat and other animal foods.
So what's the solution?
The only solution is to kick the habit. No tolerance. Just say no. “Low carb diets” suck because when you eat any amount of carbs, even 30 grams per day, it is enough to make your crave more and more. You're in a constant negative cycle when you eat any amount of carbs. It is much better to eat a zero-carb all-meat diet. You can stop eating carbohydrates and eat natural food for humans which is animal products and you can feel much better.
Meat is our natural food. The only reason we eat what we eat to day is to “make the meat last longer.” We'll put 2 pieces of bread over a piece of meat to fool ourselves into thinking we have more of the nutrition we need. We add flour to a small piece of steak and call it chicken fried steak to make the meat look bigger. Meat is the key to our health. We'll fill up with rice after every bite of meat but it isn't for nutrition, it's to fill the belly so we can pretend we are satisfied. Anyone who has ever been to Asia know that rice-eaters are always hungry. Say are you hungry to an Asian, at any time of the day or night, and they will say yes.
It is only meat that is satiating. People eat carbs, grains, and vegetables, simply because they are too poor to afford enough meat to eat. We in the western world have the ability to eat our natural food, meat, and we have the ability to be healthy. But we don't choose this path because we don't know the truth. We've all been told the importance of carbs, but what we're not told is how the agriculture companies paid for this information to be given to us.
The reality is that we are here to eat meat, we are hunters, we are not here to eat grains because we are not ruminant animals. We have the digestion of a dog and a cat, not the digestion of a cow. Carbs are not for us, they cause allergic reactions (fat gain), they cause diabetes, tooth decay, cancer, and many other debilitating illnesses. If carbs are actually food, why is it that people who eat nothing but carbs, vegans, are the sickest people on the face of the earth? Vegans are the sickest people on earth because they are eating drugs (sugar) instead of food (saturated fat, protein, and cholesterol).
The healthiest people who ever lived, as detailed in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, are the societies that lived on animal products. Carbohydrates are modern foods made possible by modern farming and modern factories. You would never be able so eat to many carbohydrates without modern factories producing them. They are unnatural for us, and quite dangerous. Now you know the truth. Eat a steak and don't feel guilt about throwing away the rice, potatoes, green peas, flour, and vegetable oils. Those things are not food meant for humans.
How to Get Through Carbohydrate Withdrawal
You just have to do it. If you are a big carb eater what you can do is slowly lower your carbohydrate intake over time. Replace one carb meal with a protein/fat meal. Continue doing this until your carbohydrate intake is low and then you can cut out carbs completely and not have to deal with many of the symptoms of carbohydrate withdrawal/keto flu.
Or, you could simply cut out the carbs and spend several days going through this withdrawal period. At the end of, say, 3-7 days you should feel fine. Actually, you should feel better than fine. You should feel absolutely fantastic when you give up carbohydrates. I do. I only feel not so good when I eat any amount of carbohydrates at all. Without them, my outlook is stellar. With them, well, my outlook is not so good. So I just don't eat them and it has worked out well for me.
Here are some comments from readers of B&D; who stopped eating carbs and starting eating only meat…
I’ve done the carnivore diet for the last 6 months. I’m 54 years old, lean and muscular. I have a six-pack all the time. I’m 6’2″ with a 29″ waist. I eat mostly rib-eyes and 70% lean hamburger meat. I eat eggs. Sometimes I will add extra yolks (not extra whites) to increase the fat level. I will add sour-cream and certain cheeses to my meals to increase the fat percentage. Eating like this keeps me so satiated that I also intermittent fast for up to 18 hours a day. I just don’t get hungry on this diet as long as I eat enough fat.” -Marcus
“I have been preaching this to everyone I know for the longest time. I personally lost 30 pounds very quickly eating pretty much just meat … I told a buddy about this a while back and he lost about 110 pounds in less than 4 months.” -Jack
“I ate a all red meat diet after my doctor of 6 years told me I had low testosterone and was thinking of giving me injections I said hold off. I Ate nothing but steaks and went back a few months later after some blood work and he was shocked. Not only was my testosterone completely fine now, but everything else was too. Low estrogen, healthy cholesterol, phosphate, insulin everything. He said this is the best I’ve ever seen you. So it’s all meat for me.” -Anthony
“I’ve been on the carnivore diet over three months now, started August 1. It has changed my life. At age 41, I feel the best I have in years. More energy, and thinking so much clearer. Stick with it and the cravings go away completely as long as you are strictly carnivore.” -Ryan
“I’ve been on the steak and eggs diet for 5 months, and whenever I eat a cheat meal (carbs) I feel groggy and like complete shit.” -Jaime
“Ate complete carnivore Sunday-Thursday of last week. The only things that entered my body were steak, eggs, butter, and milk. I had very little water. I only drank it while in the gym, and must have consumed less than 2.5 liters over those 5 days. My body did not crave water at all and I never felt dehydrated. Milk consumption was around 24-32oz per day. I was pooping a lot less. Once every two days and the turds were small and slippery. Very clean wipes as well. No big mounds of mushy poo like when I was eating oats and rice. I didn’t once feel the need for an afternoon nap during the 5 days of carnivore diet. My body leaned up a lot. The diet seems to respond and work very well while on trt. Now for the bad…
Friday I took my girl to the movies and had a hot dog with refried beans, fries and mozzarella sticks. I was so bloated that night I could not sleep. 24 hours after that meal I started getting the liquid shits. I had to make a bathroom visit every 1-2 hours and it was miserable. The whole weekend I craved water and couldn’t drink enough to satisfy me. My lips became chapped as well. Its Monday now and I still have liquid poo from last Friday's cheat meal. I feel great eating just meat, eggs, milk and butter. I feel like crap eating processed foods and carbs. I know which diet is better for me.” -Blayde
“My dad always ate butter at breakfast. Everyone tried to stop him from eating because of high cholestrol bullshit. He screamed like BUTTER, BUTTER! Give me fucking my butter! Every morning he starts eating butter that we provide from a village. He’s 68 years of age, look younger and stronger than all of his friends. Well, we can argue genetics. But, man THE BUTTER feels me like a real man. We always cook our meals with butter. For eating, everything was done against what the modern science and doctors say. He always laughs at me when I eat oatmeal in breakfast. “Son, we used to give it to animals on the farm, when did it become such a health magic?” He says.” -Bodymindrev
The proof is in the pudding, friend. Carbs aren't food for humans. Try it for yourself and you will be able to clearly see this truth. When you start eating the carnivore diet you very quickly begin to realize that carbs are not even food, they are an addiction and it is better to just say no to them.
Victor, do you think it’s okay to eat just regular meat when you start this diet or should it be all organic grass-fed?
No ,go for organic … Even if you have to work for it, only buy organic food ….
Can you elaborate on why only organic? It’s often so expensive or sometimes not even an option… thanks :)
I will reply to you soon …
Any meat is better than carbs, grassfed is best. Eat what you can afford.
I was buying highly marbled non-organic chuck for $5-$6lb and felt a huge difference.
What about vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants? How do you get all of them from meat? For example, the meat is rich with vitamin B but has no vitamin C. The carnivore animals have a system that can produce vitamin C in their gut
but humans have to get it from outside resources. Correct me if I am wrong, I ask because I assume you probably researched these issues and I want to know.
Liver liver liver, it’s natures multivitamin were we store things like b12..
Look into getting liver from a source you can trust, you don’t want to eat the liver of an unhealthy animal. I highly recommend eating liver raw I, make smoothies with raw eggs and liver once in a while, do that and you’ll be all covered.
Don’t forget that it is just the vision of Victor Pride , some people thrive without meat …
It depends a lot of your genetics, your up-bringing, social background, the way you move, eat , rest, sleep
You should watch this video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0SJ3CtQ9k8
Well, you can’t have all the answers from one person. I just ask his opinion.
I love Paul Check. Thanks for taking your time to inform me, Guillaume.
If you love Paul Chek you are indeed a good and ground person. I love this guy too and work with his books, and I will certainly start some of his class. I come always on B & D first to get a kick in the ass from Victor Pride.
Paul Chek is for me an extraordinary human being.
I have started the nofap & 16 hours fast / 8 hours eating the 9th of November. I feel great and lost some weight … But I am a musician, I study, practise, play and learn blues/ jazz guitar, I spend a lot of time seat with my electric guitar, lean forward … So I do a lot of yoga, I stretch my body a lot … My consciousness need deep focus so I eat what I feel will serve my soul and nourish my body, sometimes a green organic salad, with quinoa, olive oil, and brazil nuts is perfect sometimes an omelette or a steak is perfect too … It all depends of the needs of your body and soul … and the level / stage you are in for this life …
I do start eating meat every day, it is my second week ’cause victor pide preach this diet and I feel great and stronger :-)
I live in France, I am french … ( sorry for my english )I live in Narbonne and I feel blessed because there is a lot of organic’market, the peasants come from the countryside and the quality of the organic foods is mindblowing, I buy every saturday morning some fresh vegetables, some of it are unbelievable… I don’t really have any craving or digestiv problems, or focus problem with carbs, on ly if I eat too much … Even when I eat too much, sometimes I do, I feel I have got less energy but I can still work and feel happy … I prioritize in my daily-life, yoga and breathing … which is essential for me … I seat so much up until 13 hours a day …
Because I ate organic for the past 12 years, my body is very clean of toxins … I did some cleaning with chlorella and spirulina … I fast etc …
Sometimes I eat carb for days and feel completly normal, but I always changed my carbs … I try to have a balance life, yoga, clean diet, movement etc …
For me, Victor Pride is on the archetype of the warrior with too much emphasys on his ego. I don’t know the program he has inherit from his parents, I feel he is a good guy, deep, and very very disciplined … but sometimes I feel he is too rebel and miss some clue about life …
Victor does what he believes is right and that is what makes us human in the first place my friend…
We all make our own war and we are fallible. So take what is useful for you and ditch the rest.
Yes, I heard Paul as being the mentor of Elliott Hulse and absolutely love his philosophy. It seems like you are doing well, my man.
I love yoga and deep breathing, too. They make me more grounded.
Don’t be sorry for your English, it seems alright.
Nobody thrives without meat. It is a delusion.
Except the ones who thrives without meat. Like John Jospeh on others…
“and others ” … ( sorry )
Animal foods have everything we need and nothing we lack. In time this will become clear.
Vic, whats you view on Fish Oil?
Thanks!
I like fish better than fish oil but I’m trying cod liver oil at the moment. Generally I have a good attitude towards fish oil.
Read this book : Nutrition: Food, Health and spiritual development by Rudolf Steiner.
It is a must read for any seeker of knowledge. It is deep …
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1855842106/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p4_i3
I would go as far as to say that for some people, the 30 Days of Discipline will be impossible while still eating carbs, as they rob you of energy and motivation needed for the kind of self-discipline and physical energy needed to keep to the rules consistently.
30 Days of Discipline is not possible for a lot of people. It’s amazing, but it requires a person to have almost perfect mental health. And pretty much anybody who has a lot of carbs in their diet will not be able to do it properly because most who have a lot of carbs in their diet consume them to cope with their mental health problems. And (most) counselors won’t really help them either.
Maybe they’d be able to do it for about a week but that’s it.
Victor, my post will be a bit of emotional:
At last!
Someone who understands that sugar IS a drug and it causes ADDICTION! Sugar addiction is the most horrendous addiction out there!Believe me or not, I cut smoking back in 2007 in a day!I just throw away the cigar packet. I stopped drinking my coffe with sugar a year ago, in a day. I just woke up a day and made coffee black.
But sugar when it comes to food, is so brutal. I simply can’t get rid of it. Today I went to the grocery store to buy bacon. As I walked to the register, I show sweety bread on a shelf. I grabbed it. I couldn’t resist. Yesterday, during my visit to the grocery store again, I bought a bag of KitKat…..I AM SURE AS FUCK that the reason I bought the sweety bread today, is because the chocolate yesterday caused me cravings.
It’s an ddiction, really. Your post is fantastic, to the point!
I didn’t think anything. I just saw the chocolates and grabbed them…
I’ve only went to a low-carb diet (only bananas and multigrain bread) for two days and couldn’t continue. I was feeling hungry and the cravings were killing me. Bread makes me feel fulfil. If I eat meat without bread, I don’t feel satisfied. If I don’t eat carbs, I feel that my body shrinks. I lose weight.
I started lifting weights a month ago and I am skinny as fuck. Skinny-fat to be honest. If I don’t eat carbs, how will I continue? I’m training for mass, not being lean. Also what about the energy to perform my workouts? How many days will it take to completely get rid of the sugar cravings?
Speak about it on your next podcast, in details! Just less answers to quetions and a lot of thought on this very important subject.
He wrote and talked about this like a million times dude. Everyone who at least remotely follows BD will be able to answer all of that. I don’t think he should waste any more time answering this questions of people who are just lazy to look it up in older postss/podcasts while there are many more in depth interesting life questions to be answered. So I will give you what I think he’d say to you…
If you’re skinny fat just starting to work out as well just eat a bunch of carbs no matter what kind even ice cream, go to the gym very often and train hard, buy his book body of a spartan and start the beginner program then move on to advanced after a few months and just eat heavy on the carbs for the first year and train like an animal, sleep a lot and that’s that. After a year when you gain muscle when you gain strength and you feel like you want to shred and maybe start living a bit healthier stop being a pussy with all the questions waiting to be answered and switch to just steak and eggs diet, get through that 2-3 week adaptation period and that’s that. You will be big strong shreded and no more addicted to carbs. You literally don’t need any more advice for the next 2 years, if you just follow this you will be a beast mentally and physically 24 months from now and every already answered question you make from now on is just time spent mentally masturbating instead of spending time in the gym.
Best
Thank you very much!
Victor,
This is a FANTASTIC article. I too have experieneced carbohydrate withdrawls and have came to the conclusion that it’s best to not eat them. Being someone who has eaten carbohydrates his whole life, this isn’t easy. However, after going 3 weeks without carbohydrates, I no longer craved them. But as soon as I had a cheat meal, all hell broke loose. I wanted carbohydrates all the time!
I advise everyone to power through the carbohydrates withdrawl phase so you can experienece how good eating a zero-carb diet can make you look and feel. I 100% agree that carbohydrates are not food. Carbohydrates are drugs that are detrimental to your physical and mental health.
Just to put my 2 cents in for someone who might be on a fence…
I have been either on a very high carb diets or very low carb diets in past few years and every time I switched to low carb I got the horrible keto flu for about a week where I was literally sick not just not feeling well but then everything was fine and I felt a lot better and just like everyone ate less and less frequently even only once per day. And every time I cheat with carbs I again get horrible problems so it really is like a drug. I also don’t feel the need to eat bread, pasta, potatos, chocolate so the cravings go away and you find out how great and diversified you can eat even without carbs whereas before I couldn’t image living without it. Truly a drug.
please inform this to your government and save our souls.
Too bad governments dump a whole bunch of chemicals and carb related chemicals in their meat and stuff. The best meat is NOT USDA certified, you gotta buy it off the grid.
Government only exists to de-populate.
Is there some option for third-world countries like Russia to go low-carb, if eating only steak is not affordable option?
The only affordable foods are chicken and eggs, and even these two are quite expensive.
Our corrupt politicians say to us: “Pasta and kefir - eat them, they are inexpensive!”
Not every family can afford meat here, and many people just eat pasta and candies, they are cheap.
What compromise do you recommend to someone who doesn’t live in richest Western country?
You are right.
In all countries, the quality meat, and particilarly the beef, is an expensive food. You need to pay good if you want quality meat.
Guys who do boyduilding training and eat diets of 3.5K+ calories, man…, it’s brutally expensive to have 3.5K+ calories only from quality meat.
This is the biggest advantage of carbs IMO. They are value-for-calorie foods. They are cheap and they are bulky. The sweety bread I bought today costed 2.2 euros and had 1800 calories…..brutal caloric density.
Victor,
I noticed no matter what I do, I always seem to have a little tiny love handle ( tummy). Even when I eat steak only and zero carbs. What the best remedy for this?
interesting perspective
This diet has changed my life. I was a vegetarian for 18 years and I’ll tell you the VERY SERIOUS AND ILL EFFECTS it has had on me and my familys life. This is going to be a long comment.
My mom raised me as a vegetarian all the way from birth. My older brother ate meat for the first 3-4 years of his life before my mom decided that vegetarianism is the way to go. Then the whole family became vegetarian including my father.
LIST OF ILL EFFECTS:
1. My left testicle never dropped naturally so I had to have surgery as a kid. It is still half the size of the other one. Everything works but I have a greater risk of developing testicular cancer than others as a result. I’m also wondering if my testosterone production is affected. I feel strong though. I’ve tried to get bloodwork here in Sweden. The doctors never gave me my results insisting that everything is fine. This is Sweden for ya. Antimasculine to the core.
CAUSE:
My mom was on a vegetarian diet with soy when she was pregnant with me. If you read about soy you know that it will disrupt your hormones. Especially for developing fetuses in the womb. She was also 40 at the time which is WAY past the time one should have children.
2. My mom got breast cancer when I was 4 years old. She got the ill breast removed and thought she was going to be fine. Two years later she died because the cancer had come back and spread all through her body.
CAUSE:
If you read about soy it is connected to a greater risk of developing breast cancer in females. PLUS my mom was convinced she could cure her cancer naturally, so she decided to stop her cancer treatment. My dad drove her to Poland from Sweden to a “health camp retreat”. My father got bad vibes from the “guru” there which had hollow sunken eyes as he describes it. Too bad he didn’t trust his gut instinct. He left my mom there for a couple of weeks eating strict vegan diet and drinking grass water (pure insanity). When he picked her up and drove back home she only had a couple of weeks left to live. Veganism and soy definitly kills.
3. My father had a stroke when I was 12 and got diagnosed type 2 diabetes a couple of years later. He is still alive but the medications, the statins and the poor diet (not vegeterian anymore but still bad) has led to overweight, brain atrophy and damaged nerves. He has poor balance (can barely walk) and poor bladder control etc. etc.
CAUSE:
He was vegetarian for as long as I was (18 years). He also eats a lot of carbs, especially bread and potatos. He has finally improved his diet a bit by eating less but I’m afraid it’s not enough. His dietitian recommended him to eat more vegetables and less meat, low on butter and so on. This bitch had the most smug face when I questioned her diet advice. But I guess she’s and educated woman and that makes her smart. NOT.
CONCLUSION:
Societys push for vegetarianism, veganism and soy is a slow and insidious way to make people kill themselves. I have been eating meat for 10 years now but before that I was a walking zombie. Lethargic as hell. Thanks to you Vic I’m now on carnivore and I feel like Bradley Coopers character in the movie Limitless. I think it’s a life saver. However, my brother is still a vegetarian and my father can’t let go of his “variety” although it’s killing him. It’s sad but I’m thankfull Vic showed me the way. I pray to God it will rub off on them before it’s too late. Vegetarianism, veganism and high carb KILLS.
Was your mother in one of those crazy cults like the haray krishnas? Wondering how to de-brain wash family members who drink that kind of koolaid.
No. She was into living healthy and a lot of things she did right like fermenting vegetables, using non harmfull shampoo and stuff. It was the vegetarian diet that was completely wrong. I don’t know how she came to the conclusion to go to that camp in Poland. Women get crazy ideas.
I would say that people lacked the right information back then too. Internet was in its infancy. There was only mainstream advice and a couple of books you could lend in the public library. However, today there’s an abundance of information, highly accessable and people STILL choose to be ignorant. Now that is pure stupidity. Can’t change people though.
Joe,
That was a powerful story. I am glad you shared it.
If you want to save the lives of other people, please share this story
with [email protected]. He does youtube videos of former
vegans and vegetarians and has helped many people break free
from the cult (Victor posted one of his videos too).
He will skype you, you tell your story, and he posts
it to youtube.
Thanks again for sharing.
Victor, what are your thoughts on native tribes that survive solely on dairy? E.g. not meat and fish, but abundant cheese, milk, kefir, etc.
These men and women grow up in excellent health according to Dr. Price.
I think milk has everything we need. It provides all nutrients for a baby cow to go from 40 pounds to 400 pounds, so it must be the best/most potent food.
How would meat be better? I eat meat too but wondering which is better, fresh meat or fresh milk.
Thanks
Karl
Dairy is a treasure. It must be RAW dairy. All mammals are given life through raw dairy and humans can survive and thrive on raw dairy. To me, raw milk is compatible with the carnivore diet because it is an animal product. I have better clarity with zero carb, but have no issue with raw milk as it gave me renewed life, health, and vigor. Raw milk is a sacred treasure, pasteurized milk is a perverted poison.
I was 2 weeks into the carnivore diet right before thanksgiving. I don’t have much money so i was sticking to the fattiest most marbled meat i could afford. I felt calm, peaceful, strong, ambitious and my brain fog was clearing up very well.
I was putting in the extra work i needed.
I was also leaning out very quickly and I was the closest I have ever been to having a six pack.
I am spending two weeks with my family for the holidays. they all eat the normal american diet and drink alcohol, and i ended up eating with them for 5 days so far. I feel terrible with such bad brain fog i can not communicate properly, and lost my ambition very quickly.
I can see why so many people just sit around and complain all the time. They feel terrible but probably don’t even know it.
Fuck sugar. Tomorrow I am going to load our fridge up with meat and milk, and get right back on top of it.
Can I challenge you to go to cronometer.com and track your meals for like a week. It looks at all the nutrients you are getting and you’ll see what you might be missing. And no I don’t work for them.
No but you’re welcome to. My food is mainly grassfed beef, raw grassfed butter, beef liver, pastured pork, other grassfed beef organs and other bits of wild game here and there.
Can eating white meat, be a substitute?
Red meat is better than chicken because it is more fulfilling. You could eat pork but the vitamin profile of pork is not as good as beef or lamb or goat. Red meat is best.
Do you still count calories when on the Carnivore diet?
Or do I find out from trial and error how much meat and eggs to prepare for my meals? I am all in for the carnivore diet, but I can’t afford to eat meat only at the moment.
I started consuming more and more meat and eggs, but can’t find enough quality organic meat with fat on it. I drink one butter-coffee a day. And additionally, consume butter with almost every meal.
Although my priority is to feel more energetic, I still want to gain some weight in the form of lean muscle mass. I am 6’3 weighing 180 lbs. I’ve been like this my entire life and there wasn’t a single day where I didn’t want to be heavier.
Eat until you are full. No need to count calories.
I’m new to the whole concept and am totally on board with this philosophy. It makes perfect sense and I’m gearing up to begin this changeover but I have one question.
What, if any difference can one expect if they can’t or don’t go with organic options?
Realistically, at first you will not experience any difference. Eat what you can afford.
Hi, I’d just like to say that I’ve now been vegan for 6 months and since the day I became vegan I haven’t gotten sick once not even a cold. It’s proven that vegans have a longer life line. Veganism can prevent and even reverse heart problems, diabetes, ect. Meat is the number 1 cause of type 2 diabetes and heart diseases. Eating an all carnivore diet gives you much more protein than you require in a day. It also puts your cholesterol levels through the roof, which is life threatening. The over consumption of meat that you are suggesting would put our planet in jeopardy. Farm animals are the number one cause of pollution. Why do u think vegan options are popping up all across the globe?
“Why do u think vegan options are popping up all across the globe?”
Population control.
Regarding what this girl said, vegans always lie.
All need to watch this - Vegans: The Epitome of Malnourishment 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ&t=407s
I work with lots of vegans.
Most vegans eat cheese. Yes, self proclaimed VEGANS, not vegetarians.
The ones that don’t eat cheese will cheat by buying dried salmon sticks
or eating meat when someone else does not finish their meal (they don’t want an animal to go to waste). Some of the vegetarians will make pledges to go vegan, and then three weeks later one of them will be talking about how he had a 6-egg omlette for breakfast that was the best hes ever had (because he was starving!).
The “vegans” who eat cheese get sick more than people who eat the standard american diet with many trips to Taco Bell and Chinese Buffets. Unlike the standard American diet people, they are more submissive to authority (why do you think its promoted?)
The vegans who avoid cheese get sick all the time! One of them calls out once a week on average. Some weeks she would be gone for two or three days. She said the other day her son has been sick for THREE WEEKS STRAIGHT. She is depressed, unhappy with life, and is contemplating divorce.
Vegans also have incredibly vivid violent dreams. One of the “healthiest” (because she’s younger) vegans I know complained about having vivid dreams of dead and dying animals that had been plaguing her for weeks. Another vegetarian who went vegan said he started having crazy violent dreams about killing people all the time and he never mentioned it again after going back to vegetarian (with his 6 egg omelettes and fish here and there).
The vegans I genuinely believe feel better on their new diet used to crush Little C’s pizza with 2 liters of mountain dew and beers. Then again, they cut out that BS, and eat cheese. Yes, most self proclaimed “vegans” eat dried fish, or cheese. Vegetarians will eat normal fish and eggs. This has been a rule I’ve witnessed over time.
Some vegans keep to themselves and are fine. The ones that have a smug sense of self importance because they are saving the planet are the worst people in the universe. They have been armed with unwarranted self importance, group think, and brain damage. It becomes a religion, because it is, and because they are reminded every minute that they are vegan because they are hungry (and get hangry!)
You can break down ALL of their arguments by pointing out how many animals and habitats are destroyed by grain farming. When they shoot back “but most grain/soy is eaten by livestock” point out that is only the case because of subsidized grain/soy and that you only eat grass fed. Tell them the only way to save the Earth now is to bend over and bite the grass!
16 container ships (of the thousands) pollute more every year than 700 million cars (every car on earth). So if you are in the USA driving a Hummer eating grass fed steaks you are being more environmentally conscious than the dirty vegan driving a Prius who imports exotic fruits, legumes, beans, pills, and powders from around the world.
Say NO to veganism!
Great comment S.
You represent exactly my feelings, I am on keto 1.5 years, lost 30lb, I will never go back, I am much better than 10 years ago.Carbs making me sick.
Hi Uncle V,
Will a person experience a gout attack from eating the carnivore diet?
No.
They’re trying to outlaw beef now, all.
Just so you’re aware.
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/meat-production-overstated-effect-on-climate-change-by-bjorn-lomborg-2018-11
“They’re trying to outlaw beef now, all.”
Hi ATQ,
I heard about that a few weeks ago. Call me cynical, but I’ve come to expect that everything healthy and normal is under attack from the “Establishment”.
Vic, have you tried ButcherBox, the meat subscription service? I plan on switching to this method of shopping since I don’t live near any organic farms and the price is manageable.
Does somebody else feel a weird kind of euphoria on the zero carb diet?
Man, I can’t (yet) afford $30 organic steaks every day. I’ve been eating 2, $3 regular steaks plus eggs and butter every day. What are your thoughts on regular meat? What’s the hype about grassfed? Regular meat, Is it bad? I get the difference between them and I don’t complain about it, I’m actually striving to afford quality meat, but it is so unaffordable at this time!
Eat what you can afford. Strive to earn more money to afford better quality food because health is the real wealth.
Victor Pride wrote: “Strive to earn more money to afford better quality food ”
Great advice, as always, Uncle Vic.
Another option while he is still on a budget is grass fed ground beef instead of organic steaks. I can usually get 16 ounces for $5.99 to $6.99, and it has 15% fat for satiety.
Victor your readers who are HEAVY carb eaters might have a problem with keto flu if they go cold turkey on the carbs. Dropping carbs to zero right away stops water retention, so people who do this can get low on electrolytes, which get flushed out with the body’s water rebalance.
Electrolytes can be replaced easily by drinking salted water. I add a pinch of table salt (NaCl) and a pinch of “salt substitute” (KCl, which is potassium chloride) to a glass of water, for electrolyte supplement. I take a magnesium supplement capsule once a day.
Folks going zero carb shouldn’t need this for more than 2 or 3 days, unless they were complete carbaholics prior to the change.
Vic, I always end up returning to some or your articles, and this is one of those I read over and over again.
I was indulging in some sugar with my coffee, and, as a couple of weeks passed, slowly I was increasing my sugar intake. Yesterday I ate chocolate all day (it’s christmas, so there are candies and chocolates everywhere in my house, as they are gifts from family, friends, etc). What made me stop, was a first hand realization that chocolate was making me feel like Shit. I mean, it made me feel some rush, but the problem is, if my setpoint without sugar is, say, 5, chocolate made me feel like 4. After 5-10 minutes, I was at 2. What did I need? Of course, more chocolate to feel at 4 again. And the loop started again. I was depressed all day, with a very dark mood, and just when I realized that loop was caused by me eating chocolate, I thought for a moment and tested my mood, purposefully eating chocolate, as if it was an experiment. And Lo! I was engaged in a destructive sugar loop, which should be obvious in the beginning. I ditched it and became disgusted by sugar at that very moment.
It turns out, yes, [email protected] truth here. sugar is not food. It is a [email protected] drug. I am a hardcore smoker and the sugar situation is not very different from that of tobacco. It is like a Stockholm syndrome, insidiously accepted by society.
The reason I tell this to you, and any other reader comming across this comment is to share the idea that this must be experienced mindfully to be understood well. But first, there is some utility in reading as planting seeds in one’s mind, in order to start noticing things in life. Like acquiring a mold so your perception fills it with first hand experiences. So thank you very much for that, Vic.